i noted your comment at wmc couple of days ago, and given your expertise might be smt of interest to explore in more details and learn in the process. final objective is to identify some sort of response to this attack in our bodies.
Conway Judge
Writes Mr medic's marvelous misinforma…
Aug 25
Because the process is slow in most cases and spreads like a cancer. But isn't a cancer.
mtDNA damage occurs in some but not all mitochondria, each cell has many mitochondria.
If all or most mitochondria are destroyed. The cell dies because it cannot function. If half or 1/4 are damaged. The cell can survive and divide. So one cell becomes two broken cells. Then two become four. And so on and so on.
This particular subject is a big interest of mine.
And was for quite some time before covid was on the radar. I have been looking into mitochondrial mutagenesis for years.
Although I never knew of spike protein toxicity (this has actually narrowed down the possibilities as to the root cause despite being a disaster)
I have some theories now as to how we might potentially be able to reverse this process but the nuts and bolts application and research is well beyond my capabilities.
I just hope some pharmaceutical or biochemical genius finds me and decided to dig into some of my crackpot theories. Because I do think mitochondrial mutagenesis (mitochondrial poisoning) is one of the key pathologies causing toxicity, long covid and a host of other serious incurable illnesses and syndromes.
I just wonder if a shitload of heavy metals... aluminum, mercury, graphene, et al... wouldn't cause a LOT of problems, not just one or two... Heavy fucking metals! They've been testing us with them for decades via PAS.
glad to hear you had an interest in this subject especially given this developments.
"well beyond my capabilities" is the key word.
and we are definitely on our own ... the cavalry is not coming - au contraire.
in my two cents, got to do our best under the circumstances. wmc is a good example at that, if not sure, i would say shot in the dark, smt might stick ...everyone got to chip in - i mean about you guys as experts.
Basically. I very much doubt we can get a drug/medicine to target specific broken mitochondria in specific cells all over the body without potentially fucking up healthy cells.
But it might be possible to mark cells that have or produce excessive oxidative stress due to damaged mitochondria. Then delete them, so only the healthy non damaged cells repopulate the tissues. Ultimately fixing the problem.
There's a LOT of FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, and more FEAR. They want to keep us anxious and feeling out of control... It's bad enough without all that fear!
Knowledge is power, so we have to keep researching. There are some experts I trust and some I just take with a grain...
I don't think I said it was "just" heavy metals, did I. But I would guess that filling our heads with all kinds of possibilities, the scarier the better, would be part of the program. I'm getting the impression that they can't even DO any mRNA anything. The idea is to make us feel insecure, under attack from "unknowns" and set us at each other, arguing and worrying, because it distracts us from looking at THEM.
I agree. But technically I am just a "researcher" too. I just have a history in a lot of relevant areas. None of which are high end research though. All my roles are really technician level. Eg CBRNE medic. Health and safety manager. Holistic health coach. Actually having CFS and going through the diagnostic process and learning to manage it.
Personally, I am not sure about the virus, not a virus issue. I keep both theories in the back of my mind and juggle them. Because I don't know.
I am however sure about everyone being given an unneeded experimental jab though. Definitely know that is happening.
And that quite a lot of people either got sick or are getting sick now. That I am sure of too.
Likewise I will find a way to find out more about the strange "things"
and contaminants found because I do have a contact locally, a PhD microbiologist worth interviewing. Maybe I need to stop thinking about it and just go and do it.
Your way of thinking is much like my own. Not so long ago, I thought the idea of viruses was just The Way It Is. Now I'm questioning MANY things, because the more I look at some of this "science" and "history," the more it seems we've been duped for a long long time on certain things... And like you, I don't KNOW everything, but I am smart, I like to read, think, am highly intuitive (I have a killer BS Detector, lol, but that doesn't mean I'm always RIGHT), and I'm finding that it's far more interesting to keep a bit of an open mind about things, and at least have a look at things... I also have trust for certain people and very little trust for other people, and right now, we're being encouraged to MIStrust everybody, except, of course, the governments and the "authorities" like Fauci, et al.
I've been learning about the "Black Nobility" as they call themselves, the Venetians, who are the oligarchic families descended from the ROMANS, and still in power... I never knew about these people until very recently, and it's mind-blowing, learning all this now... and I have the time to do this right now.
So, I'm a long-term student-- of life, of human behavior, of so many things, I am very curious by nature and I like to discuss. I've studied law, music, languages, trained as an EMT, was in a couple of rock bands, took ballet, played basketball, even football as a kid, and I haven't had a vaccine, or any other jab, in probably 40 years. I've studied nutrition, religion, psychology (a little bit), journalism... I'm interested in a LOT of things. I'm not SURE about viruses, but I find it very logical to think that they are a con, generally, and I sure as heck don't think "Covid" is a virus, or maybe not any one thing at all, but a word used to describe SYMPTOMS, more likely. Symptoms are notoriously difficult to always point to ONE cause... Anyway... !! ^_^
Sounds like we have some common ground... I tend to have SOME common ground with a lot of people! Cheers.
Oh, and I would just add this: I find that many times, the people most unwilling to consider a different take on anything medical are the people trained in the medical field... which makes sense really, don't you think? But there are many exceptions.
So... I take it you and Stephanie both believe that "Covid" is a virus, and heavy metals have nothing to do with anything, including certain inoculations.
I wouldn't ask, except SS is sending me notifications for comments that I'm only indirectly related to. Wondering if either of you have ever heard the term "Controlled Opposition," or the phrase "Divide and Conquer"? Just curious...
And did EITHER of you watch the video I posted? I didn't think so. How about this one?
"Wondering if either of you have ever heard the term "Controlled Opposition," or the phrase "Divide and Conquer"?
Absolutely, and I think it's far more likely that people posting crazy theories that viruses aren't real or LNPs are making people into human antennas...which get us sidetracked off of the real problems of mRNA...are the ones who are the "controlled opposition." Or being unwittingly driven by controlled opposition.
This is further given credence by the persistent and hostile reaction by said anti-germ contingent...almost to the point of obsession...where the people who "don't believe in germs" relentlessly attack and troll others in various Substack comment sections.
Okie dokie then. You're entitled to think whatever you want. I've seen PLENTY of people who refuse to even CONSIDER any reality besides what they've been told, forget actual investigation, forget science, be comfy. It's okay, it's quite common. I don't know you, so what you think doesn't matter to me much. Can you understand that I'm only trying to get you outside the box? But no problem. And I know you won't, but maybe consider just who is having the "hostile reaction."
Well sure, that's fine, IF this actually is about mRNA. But I don't think a lot of different lab results from all over the world are "rumors." Did you watch the video I posted? I think it's pretty compelling, but if you don't see the alternate views of what might be going on, you can't really form a complete picture to analyze.
Yes, that's possible. And maybe also possible that multiple pathologies are occuring in sequence. And also possibly they continue to lie to us, all the time, because they want us to ARGUE about which is what and more Divide and Conquer.
This really comes down to no clinical testing has been done to determine if the vaccines are safe for pregnant or lactating women and, equally importantly, the way that the government agencies spin that lack of data. In 2021, the lack of data meant they could claim that the vaccines were safe and effective because there was no data showing otherwise. In other words, no data meant no problems. That sounds an awful lot like the CDC's lack of monitoring VAERS reports in realtime. Now, they are looking at this from the opposite direction -- the way they always should have -- you need data to PROVE that they are safe for this group of people.
wonder if fact checkers received the message ... my bet not.
until safe covid vaxx (without clinical trials, just trump's word) came along, the advice for pregnant women was to not take or inject anything ... then trump (whoever beyond him) changed it all.
Hmmmm. I wonder if that's because syringes full of heavy metals isn't very healthy for ANYBODY...
if it was just heavy metals ...
https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/the-spike-protein-as-human-systemic
https://wmcresearch.substack.com/
So many red flags are waving and yet from the mainstream media all we hear is radio silence. Doesn't that speak volume in and of itself.
we are on our own ... as you well know.
i noted your comment at wmc couple of days ago, and given your expertise might be smt of interest to explore in more details and learn in the process. final objective is to identify some sort of response to this attack in our bodies.
Conway Judge
Writes Mr medic's marvelous misinforma…
Aug 25
Because the process is slow in most cases and spreads like a cancer. But isn't a cancer.
mtDNA damage occurs in some but not all mitochondria, each cell has many mitochondria.
If all or most mitochondria are destroyed. The cell dies because it cannot function. If half or 1/4 are damaged. The cell can survive and divide. So one cell becomes two broken cells. Then two become four. And so on and so on.
This particular subject is a big interest of mine.
And was for quite some time before covid was on the radar. I have been looking into mitochondrial mutagenesis for years.
Although I never knew of spike protein toxicity (this has actually narrowed down the possibilities as to the root cause despite being a disaster)
I have some theories now as to how we might potentially be able to reverse this process but the nuts and bolts application and research is well beyond my capabilities.
I just hope some pharmaceutical or biochemical genius finds me and decided to dig into some of my crackpot theories. Because I do think mitochondrial mutagenesis (mitochondrial poisoning) is one of the key pathologies causing toxicity, long covid and a host of other serious incurable illnesses and syndromes.
I just wonder if a shitload of heavy metals... aluminum, mercury, graphene, et al... wouldn't cause a LOT of problems, not just one or two... Heavy fucking metals! They've been testing us with them for decades via PAS.
You might find this interesting. I don't have a link but go to www.longecity.org and put manipulating mitochondrial dynamics in the search bar.
Nothing is incurable if we have the right tools... THAT is the thing!
But watch this video...
https://rumble.com/v1ga1e5-dr.-merritt-interview-with-poornima-wagh-phd-virology.html
Well, Poornima Wagh was smeared by MSM, so nobody cares what she says... sigh.
glad to hear you had an interest in this subject especially given this developments.
"well beyond my capabilities" is the key word.
and we are definitely on our own ... the cavalry is not coming - au contraire.
in my two cents, got to do our best under the circumstances. wmc is a good example at that, if not sure, i would say shot in the dark, smt might stick ...everyone got to chip in - i mean about you guys as experts.
Basically. I very much doubt we can get a drug/medicine to target specific broken mitochondria in specific cells all over the body without potentially fucking up healthy cells.
But it might be possible to mark cells that have or produce excessive oxidative stress due to damaged mitochondria. Then delete them, so only the healthy non damaged cells repopulate the tissues. Ultimately fixing the problem.
This goes back to my original concerns. Since then, more and more keeps emerging showing my original suspicions were justified.
https://mistermedic.substack.com/p/an-unhappy-genotoxic-family
There's a LOT of FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, and more FEAR. They want to keep us anxious and feeling out of control... It's bad enough without all that fear!
Knowledge is power, so we have to keep researching. There are some experts I trust and some I just take with a grain...
Right?!
Yes, I've thought that, too, the mRNA and all that... until not long ago!
Check out this video, I think you'll be thinking about this like I am now!
VERY interesting, and these two women I already consider to be honest and expert...
https://rumble.com/v1ga1e5-dr.-merritt-interview-with-poornima-wagh-phd-virology.html
I don't think I said it was "just" heavy metals, did I. But I would guess that filling our heads with all kinds of possibilities, the scarier the better, would be part of the program. I'm getting the impression that they can't even DO any mRNA anything. The idea is to make us feel insecure, under attack from "unknowns" and set us at each other, arguing and worrying, because it distracts us from looking at THEM.
Rumors of heavy metals are a distraction and won't get any traction with the public. We need to stay focused on the problems with mRNA.
exactly!!! that explains all this No virus attack explosion recently.
btw, you might want to follow WMC ... really great research.
https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/sped-spike-protein-endothelial-disease
This guy is a "researcher." Is he a scientist? What do you know about him? It appears he is just a blogger on Substack.
The videos I post are people who are experts and have credentials, places where you can investigate them and what makes them worth listening to.
I agree. But technically I am just a "researcher" too. I just have a history in a lot of relevant areas. None of which are high end research though. All my roles are really technician level. Eg CBRNE medic. Health and safety manager. Holistic health coach. Actually having CFS and going through the diagnostic process and learning to manage it.
Personally, I am not sure about the virus, not a virus issue. I keep both theories in the back of my mind and juggle them. Because I don't know.
I am however sure about everyone being given an unneeded experimental jab though. Definitely know that is happening.
And that quite a lot of people either got sick or are getting sick now. That I am sure of too.
Likewise I will find a way to find out more about the strange "things"
and contaminants found because I do have a contact locally, a PhD microbiologist worth interviewing. Maybe I need to stop thinking about it and just go and do it.
Your way of thinking is much like my own. Not so long ago, I thought the idea of viruses was just The Way It Is. Now I'm questioning MANY things, because the more I look at some of this "science" and "history," the more it seems we've been duped for a long long time on certain things... And like you, I don't KNOW everything, but I am smart, I like to read, think, am highly intuitive (I have a killer BS Detector, lol, but that doesn't mean I'm always RIGHT), and I'm finding that it's far more interesting to keep a bit of an open mind about things, and at least have a look at things... I also have trust for certain people and very little trust for other people, and right now, we're being encouraged to MIStrust everybody, except, of course, the governments and the "authorities" like Fauci, et al.
I've been learning about the "Black Nobility" as they call themselves, the Venetians, who are the oligarchic families descended from the ROMANS, and still in power... I never knew about these people until very recently, and it's mind-blowing, learning all this now... and I have the time to do this right now.
So, I'm a long-term student-- of life, of human behavior, of so many things, I am very curious by nature and I like to discuss. I've studied law, music, languages, trained as an EMT, was in a couple of rock bands, took ballet, played basketball, even football as a kid, and I haven't had a vaccine, or any other jab, in probably 40 years. I've studied nutrition, religion, psychology (a little bit), journalism... I'm interested in a LOT of things. I'm not SURE about viruses, but I find it very logical to think that they are a con, generally, and I sure as heck don't think "Covid" is a virus, or maybe not any one thing at all, but a word used to describe SYMPTOMS, more likely. Symptoms are notoriously difficult to always point to ONE cause... Anyway... !! ^_^
Sounds like we have some common ground... I tend to have SOME common ground with a lot of people! Cheers.
Oh, and I would just add this: I find that many times, the people most unwilling to consider a different take on anything medical are the people trained in the medical field... which makes sense really, don't you think? But there are many exceptions.
So... I take it you and Stephanie both believe that "Covid" is a virus, and heavy metals have nothing to do with anything, including certain inoculations.
I wouldn't ask, except SS is sending me notifications for comments that I'm only indirectly related to. Wondering if either of you have ever heard the term "Controlled Opposition," or the phrase "Divide and Conquer"? Just curious...
And did EITHER of you watch the video I posted? I didn't think so. How about this one?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RpaBdalbgD2Y/
If you deign to watch this, click on the gear icon on the bottom right and speed it up a notch, it's recorded too slow.
"Wondering if either of you have ever heard the term "Controlled Opposition," or the phrase "Divide and Conquer"?
Absolutely, and I think it's far more likely that people posting crazy theories that viruses aren't real or LNPs are making people into human antennas...which get us sidetracked off of the real problems of mRNA...are the ones who are the "controlled opposition." Or being unwittingly driven by controlled opposition.
This is further given credence by the persistent and hostile reaction by said anti-germ contingent...almost to the point of obsession...where the people who "don't believe in germs" relentlessly attack and troll others in various Substack comment sections.
PS Those videos "debunking" germs are...I'll say it. Stupid. https://wholistic.substack.com/p/viruses-are-real
Okie dokie then. You're entitled to think whatever you want. I've seen PLENTY of people who refuse to even CONSIDER any reality besides what they've been told, forget actual investigation, forget science, be comfy. It's okay, it's quite common. I don't know you, so what you think doesn't matter to me much. Can you understand that I'm only trying to get you outside the box? But no problem. And I know you won't, but maybe consider just who is having the "hostile reaction."
There's thinking "outside the box" and then there's jumping off the edge of flat earth.
Well sure, that's fine, IF this actually is about mRNA. But I don't think a lot of different lab results from all over the world are "rumors." Did you watch the video I posted? I think it's pretty compelling, but if you don't see the alternate views of what might be going on, you can't really form a complete picture to analyze.
There are potentially multiple pathologies occurring simultaneously.
Yes, that's possible. And maybe also possible that multiple pathologies are occuring in sequence. And also possibly they continue to lie to us, all the time, because they want us to ARGUE about which is what and more Divide and Conquer.
Bingo. I absolutely can see this ^^ being true.
I've learned not to get TOO attached to any one snippet of "truth." Not too often. ;)
Cheers.
Those types of videos are the controlled opposition poisoning the well.
Sure, darlin'. Of course they are. Just think about all there is to GAIN from that. ;)
This really comes down to no clinical testing has been done to determine if the vaccines are safe for pregnant or lactating women and, equally importantly, the way that the government agencies spin that lack of data. In 2021, the lack of data meant they could claim that the vaccines were safe and effective because there was no data showing otherwise. In other words, no data meant no problems. That sounds an awful lot like the CDC's lack of monitoring VAERS reports in realtime. Now, they are looking at this from the opposite direction -- the way they always should have -- you need data to PROVE that they are safe for this group of people.
wonder if fact checkers received the message ... my bet not.
until safe covid vaxx (without clinical trials, just trump's word) came along, the advice for pregnant women was to not take or inject anything ... then trump (whoever beyond him) changed it all.
I thought it was someone at the CDC that said it was fine. I don't remember it being Trump.